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What no one has talked about is driving on twisty mountain roads at speed. I don't have any clue as to how one would go about doing that with an automatic transmission. All I do know is that I want to maintain high RPM's going through curves and have complete control over that. I don't want the transmission to decide it's a good time to shift, up or down, for any reason. The only way I know how to achieve this is by having a manual transmission. Also, with a manual, gears can be skipped; such as shifting from 5th to 3rd. As a last item of note, automatics don't do rev matching...
There's this thing called paddle shifters on the automatics. In terms of control they offer everything a manual does but prevent you from lugging the engine and will downshift if your RPM is too low.
 

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What no one has talked about is driving on twisty mountain roads at speed. I don't have any clue as to how one would go about doing that with an automatic transmission. All I do know is that I want to maintain high RPM's going through curves and have complete control over that. I don't want the transmission to decide it's a good time to shift, up or down, for any reason. The only way I know how to achieve this is by having a manual transmission. Also, with a manual, gears can be skipped; such as shifting from 5th to 3rd. As a last item of note, automatics don't do rev matching...
I agree Gila. In town (Small as it is), I'm always going 1-3-5. As you I like being hands-on with my gears too....
 

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My clutch has 8yrs and close to 95K miles on it and is still in good working order. I'd find a new mechanic... lol.
My 09 R/t ran to 130,000 miles and sold with original clutch. But to be honest I do not push hard or abuse my cars..... :)
 

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There's this thing called paddle shifters on the automatics. In terms of control they offer everything a manual does but prevent you from lugging the engine and will downshift if your RPM is too low.
They might offer the same control, but the feel is completely different. I have tried, and paddle shifters have yet to give the same feel as a manual. Believe me, I wanted them too, but every time they feel like a hollow replacement. So, not the same thing.
 

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You can mimic a manual with the paddles, but it's not the same of course. No need to justify the automatic that way ;)

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If you need that to be a real man...ok

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Very true, lots of real men drive automatics and some even drive V6s. ;)
 

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There's this thing called paddle shifters on the automatics. In terms of control they offer everything a manual does but prevent you from lugging the engine and will downshift if your RPM is too low.
Close, but no cigar... I prevent me from lugging my engine and my engine doesn't have an annoying cam eating MDS system that turns it into a 4cyl turd on the freeway. I'm happy you are enjoying your automatic, they just aren't for me. They in no way "offer everything a manual does." I'm a necessary and integral part of my car. Hackers can't even take total control, I have a clutch pedal which can't be controlled via computer. Then there's that added bonus that many potential car thieves can't drive a stick either. :D
 

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Close, but no cigar... I prevent me from lugging my engine and my engine doesn't have an annoying cam eating MDS system that turns it into a 4cyl turd on the freeway. I'm happy you are enjoying your automatic, they just aren't for me. They in no way "offer everything a manual does." I'm a necessary and integral part of my car. Hackers can't even take total control, I have a clutch pedal which can't be controlled via computer. Then there's that added bonus that many potential car thieves can't drive a stick either. :D
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In an auto trans car, the parking brake is activated by a switch and cannot be disabled. In a manual, it is activated the old fashioned way. At least that's what the dealer told me when I bought the car.
 

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As for me and my reasons for getting the A8, as I have said in the past, I searched for and found the perfect Challenger for me without choosing the transmission, I really didn't care, the A8 is so nice. I had one in my 2015 Charger R/T and loved it, but I am also the "clutch master" that is the guy that teaches everyone how to drive one.
BUT, (everything before "but" is B.S.) now, I would probably get the M6 for the fun factor, since just before this pandemic Covid crap, we went to WFH 3 days, and about to go to 4 days. Then since March I have only been to a couple meetings and we are full time WFH permanently. So with no daily traffic, and I got another vehicle as a spare, the Challenger is turning into a fun car only, not a daily. So having it wife friendly and traffic friendly is less important.
 

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In an auto trans car, the parking brake is activated by a switch and cannot be disabled. In a manual, it is activated the old fashioned way. At least that's what the dealer told me when I bought the car.
Not my 2018, I have a pedal, same as my 2015 and 2006.
My 2018 Cadillac XT5 has the electric parking brake though, actually pretty nice.
 

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A lot of this stuff I didn't know. But doesn't make a difference ether way. The main reason for having the standard transmission is the true sporty feeling I get from getting up to speed running through the gears once and awhile. Sure dose help the boredom of being an OLE' GUY.... :p
 

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All Challengers have a foot pedal parking brake

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