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I ask because I don't know if dodge has this feature.

Chevy has been spying for years with OnStar. Ford has sync but it has been an option. It seems on the new 2015 mustang it is standard.

Both systems record and send info out on your driving habits to who knows who.

You already can't do anything on the internet or make a phone call with out big brother watching.

Now it seems I can't go for a drive without someone tracking my speed, RPMs, and whether or not I am wearing my seat belt.

When does it end.




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If they spy on me they will catch me taming trim with my anaconda..................All spying will end after that............
LMAO! There might be more spying on you after that....
 

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I laugh when I here this If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.
The world is a changing and. Not all Change is good.
I don't find it funny at all. In fact I find it quite irritating. I feel they should have to get your permission first. I don't do things wrong either, but that doesn't give anyone carte blanche on my privacy.
 

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You're not being paranoid...

You're most likely already being tracked by the Police Department in the various major metropolitan areas you drive in...

...there was an article by ARSTechnia a few months back in which the author did a Freedom of Information Act on a local LA police department and found that, despite their protests to the contrary, his plate was randomly "tagged and tracked" throughout their jurisdiction for many weeks on end, just as every car that passed through was tagged and tracked.

Until more people become aware of this phenomenon and speak up about it, nothing will be done about it.

Guess what I'm trying to say is that despite some of the reactions you might get here, you're not being paranoid...it IS happening, and I too don't buy that "...if you're not doing anything wrong, don't worry about it..." line of justification.

You bring up exactly why I never would purchase, or would seek to disable, any type of "OnStar" or other device/service from my car. It's bad enough my cellphone spies on me, though the Supreme Court just issued a ruling that strengthens [for the time being] our Constitutional right to be protected from unwarranted (pun intended) snooping by the authorities into the contents of our phones.
 
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All manufactures have been "spying" for awhile now, since they have gotten more sophisticated computers and sensors on everything the car does, the early ones would record the last 20 mins of what's going on, I am sure the newer ones record even more. Then manufactures like Tesla that can grab telemetry on the fly while your driving even in the middle of no where. Again this is nothing new to any of the manufactures, even the Challenger you drive today you are being "spyed" on. Nothing you can do about it except go old school and buy a classic non computerized car, but make sure you don't have your cell phone with you, because they can spy on you thru it as well.

Its todays culture, and its not just the government, companies are actually worse because they give you a sense of safety and grab even more personal information than the government "farms", Google, Yahoo, even this site tracks what we do, what we look at, who we talk to. The difference is the companies/governments that make use of that information vs. the ones that don't.

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Hate To Break It To You, But Your Car Likely Has A Black Box 'Spying' On You Already - Forbes

"So what’s the new law going to change?
For one, it will make the recorders mandatory in all vehicles starting in 2015, meaning that manufacturers who have not been including them (such as Mercedes-Benz and Audi) will have to start. And as IEEE reports, recent rules from the NHTSA have standardized what those event recorders capture: “a car’s speed, how far the accelerator was pressed, the engine revolutions per minute, whether the driver hit the brakes, whether the driver was wearing a safety belt, and how long it took for the airbags to deploy.” So moving forward, these event recorders will be creating far more comprehensive recordings.
The bill is actually good for privacy in a few ways. In the past, there were questions about whether the data belonged to the manufacturer or the owner. This would establish that the data in the recorder belongs to the owner (or lessee) of a vehicle, meaning that interested parties such as insurance companies, dealerships, or advertisers won’t be able to collect info from your black box without your permission. The only exceptions would be when a court grants access to law enforcement, when an emergency medical team needs the info, or in the event of a National Transportation Safety Board investigation (I’m sure the gov had the Toyota accelerator investigation in mind here). Two wins for privacy here: insurance companies aren’t granted access to the valuable boxes and the bill says police have to get a court order to peek at the data under your hood."
 

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I have guidepoint stolen vehicle recovery system installed on my SRT and it is a EVTS type system like lojack. I think all it does is track the vehicle if it is stolen and a phone call is made to guidepoint saying it was stolen.
 

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I don't find it funny at all. In fact I find it quite irritating. I feel they should have to get your permission first. I don't do things wrong either, but that doesn't give anyone carte blanche on my privacy.
My comment was made with sarcasm I certainly do not think its funny to give up all our privacy and have no choice in the matter.
Its in every aspect of our life now and I think it's BS
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
 

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I dont care if someone wants to pull a record of the cars data for the last 20 seconds or so when a crash has occurred.... things like speed, acceleration, deceleration could be a big factor in insurance claims which affect everyone else...

But I dont want anyone tracking locations.
 

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None of the above for me.

I bought a 2006 Tahoe and the first thing I did was pull the On-Star fuse.
I did one better and pulled the whole damn unit out of the trunk on the Monte Carlo I had...
 

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I dont care if someone wants to pull a record of the cars data for the last 20 seconds or so when a crash has occurred.... things like speed, acceleration, deceleration could be a big factor in insurance claims which affect everyone else...

But I dont want anyone tracking locations.
You can't pick & choose what is or is not O.K :eek:


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Too late... all of this technology is in the cars or very close to being in the cars. Heck, tracking cookies are on your PC already tracking what sites you go to and then presenting ads based on what you like. Everything is going this route... Heck... your cell phone can track you and sometimes it doesn't even have to be on to be tracked.
 
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