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#1 ·
I have a 2010 Challenger SE 3.5 that I have been redoing having fun with, post divorce mid life crisis car lol, I've done cold air intake, bigger throttle body, throttle response controller dual exhaust and performance plugs and coil packs, I've gone as far as I can go , I think. What are the groups thoughts on a small nitrous kit, any help would be great, thanks.
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Nitro the dog is uneasy with running nitrous on these cars. He thinks it’s too dangerous for the average gear head, and he worries about your safety if you install a nitrous system on your Challenger.

Yes, he’s just a dog, what does he know, right…but his name IS Nitro, so, that counts for something doesn’t it?
 
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Nitro the dog is uneasy with running nitrous on these cars. He thinks it’s too dangerous for the average gear head, and he worries about your safety if you install a nitrous system on your Challenger.

Yes, he’s just a dog, what does he know, right…but his name IS Nitro, so, that counts for something doesn’t it?
I think I'll trust him, just look at that face
 
#6 ·
you will grenade the engine. Nitrous engines have much wider ring gap on the pistons to allow for more expansion. Stock pistons have tight ring gaps and will expand to the point of grenade your engine. Don’t do it
 
#7 ·
RIPP does not make a supercharger for the 3.5L, in fact no one does any more. It's possible a wet system of 50HP would be OK, but the engine is not a strong one, everything is cast and rocker issues are common. It's just not built for performance

Nitro knows from dogs

A Guy
 
#8 · (Edited)
RIPP does not make a supercharger for the 3.5L
Thought about that after I had posted, my bad. :)

Edit: So 2009 and 2010 were the years the 3.5L was used in the Challenger. I do not understand why Dodge did not strengthen that engine and continue with it, at least it had full exhaust manifolds and long tube headers were available for it? The 3.6L with the exhaust outlet forged into the head will never have true headers.

"No use crying over spilt milk" Eh! Not bashing the 3.6L as we have one, just saying.
 
#12 ·
I think tidalwave used to make superchargers for the 3.5 v6 back in the day:


Not sure if they are still in business...their website throws all sorts of security errors lol.
 
#13 ·
My suggestion is to ask your tuner and if you're planning on installing it, start small on power (smaller nitrous pills/jets/whatever) and sneak up on your desired power output.

Example: Start at 35 extra horses and see how your engine likes it and the maybe jump to 50 hp and then 70 hp all while logging (if possible) for KR (knock retard aka detonation), spark timing, and AFR (air fuel ratio). If you get some knock, then you can correct it by either turning back the timing more, install the next smaller nitrous jet or add some fuel or a combination of those.

I've run N20 on a couple of cars. One was stock 1987 Pontiac Trans Am with a 305 with TPI and a 100 horse shot and it ran alright and a built 68 Camaro with a 540 ci. BBC that snorted 2 stages of nitrous (Stage one was 150 and then 250 more on top but the system was designed to use up to 600+ extra horses total) that ran low 9's on the first stage. The ones that I've used were wet kits, which means that there is an added solenoid for fueling instead of relying on the ECM/PCM/Whatever adding it. I never had any problems with the nitrous but traction was sometimes an issue (on the street, not the track)! ;)

Most of the time, you'll hear stories about nitrous backfires or nitrous fires but most of the time they are from people who've never run nitrous before and they were probably caused by running too large of a shot (sometimes without proper fueling added and sometimes just too much power for their engine) or a poorly installed system. As I said, start small and work up to your goal. Anything can blow up if set up incorrectly or just abused. Set it up with enough fuel and a good tune and you should be fine. As Reaperhwk said, a step colder on the plugs helps too.

Here's the Nitrous Express Proton System (Dry kit) with a video. It's some food for thought.

Nitrous Express Proton system...............

Nitrous Outlet Wet Kit....................

I'm by no means knocking anyone's opinion but I highly recommend doing your own research instead of taking my or anyone's opinion because if something bad happens, you'll get either a Sorry or an I told you so while you're left picking up the pieces of a broken car.

Good Luck!
 
#14 ·
Drawbacks to Nitrous, if the Engine does not Grenade it will start to Knock an 3.5 is not that great of an Engine to Begin with. Should the Engine Grenade it will usually Catch Fire. Before destroying the Car why not keep it in good shape and trade it up for an early R/T. Next in many States, and Cities if you Wreck and they See a NOS Bottle which is not meant for Street they can give you a Ticket.Now even if you go with a 35 or 50hp shot of Nitrous your still below the power of a 3.6 Engine V6. Now with what you did to the car a Larger TB is useless, a CAI is useless only good for Exhaust Sound. Coil Packs not adding Power all Placebo Mods and over hyped HP gain items. You could of just went with a Throttle Enhancer an get better response but they also add Zero Hp.

Since its a 3.5 you could of just went with a Diablo Tuner and gotten Throttle Response and about 20 HP and be about 270hp at the Flywheel as the 3.5 was rated at 250hp at the Engines Flywheel. So even NOS wont be hardly any different. a 3.6 Pentastar SXT is Rated at 305hp at the Flywheel. They are also very limited as well How ever with a Tuner you can get close to 325hp to 327hp at the Flywheel and nothing else needed cause those items are mostly Placebo.