Hello my dudes, I'm from the Great white north and I'm in the process of buying, well starting to buy a challenger. I'm looking around and kind of stuck between three different ones. The rt, scat pack and the ta. I see the differences online and brochures and blogs but like I'm looking for advice on it from people that own them.
R/T vs Scat Pack
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I understand where you are coming from. Some of us are not looking for the fasted 0-60 times. Yes I paid close to $50k for my R/T with the 6M just to have fun. By now Dodge has been building the Charger, 300, and the Challenger for several years and most of the bugs are gone. I owned a 18 Camry XSE 4 banger to economize entering retirement but it was so boring to me and traded it in on a 19 SP. I went with my passion instead of settling with basic but dependable transportation. I love my 5.7 6M.
I at times just ignore the car next to me that wants to race regardless of what kind of car it is. That's just me now at 68 years young.😬
LOL I don't know where you are getting your information from, but the cheapest Camry with a V6 is over $32k. Also, IIRC, RT Challengers are 375 HP and about 4200 lbs. Yeah, not a lot of difference, but still. I definitely understand what you are saying about grocery getter performance, but it sure isn't had for $28k. And when I priced a Camry with similar things an RT has, the Camry was high $30s. Almost $40k. A Camry is a commuter 4-door car, unlike a cool Challenger. I would compare the Camry more to a Charger than a Challenger, and either one of these Mopars are way cooler than a Camry. Just sayin'. Also, a TRD Camry is not your average commuter car. I do agree that by todays standards an RT isn't much ahead of a lot of current cars performance wise, but the looks are way above the melted bar of soap most cars look like.
My wife is pretty satisfied with her retro Shaker Go Mango M6, but I am trying to get her to trade up to a similar Scat. We would love the extra power of the Scat for sure. Any Challenger stands out in a parking lot, unlike a Camry.
Like I said previously, I don't buy a car for looks. I drive muscle cars almost exclusively, hence why I don't have a Porsche in my garage or something similar. That being said, I'm a performance guy. I recognize that not everyone is like me, but also why I put that disclaimer in my original post. I'm not the type of person who would buy a 5.7 and put all sorts of stuff on it like a Hellcat hood, go fast parts, and so on just to try and claw my way out of a performance hole and/or make the car look cooler. Those things don't interest me. I'd rather start with a car that has a more solid performance platform to modify if that was my goal.
I'm on the end of the spectrum where I test drove an SP 6M and struggled to feel the difference between that and the 5.7 6M I owned at the time. Maybe my 2015 was special (doubt it), or the SP was a dog (very possible), but it just didn't make me get out of the car clawing to trade mine in. Had it been a deal where I got a really good return on my car and a deal on the SP, sure I would have done it. But the car just didn't grab me. Wife and I went to lunch and decided against it even before we talked numbers with the dealer.
And yes I got on it getting on the freeway.
Last I looked, the difference for an SP was about 10K over an R/T. But I have been clean for a couple of months and haven't done any car shopping so maybe it isn't as much now.
For me, IF you can do the work yourself, I think the R/T is the best bang for the buck. Make sure to buy one with the STP package (or a 2019+) to get the better suspension. Maybe even one with the Handling Package to get the Brembos. Then add the 6.4 cam, intake and exhaust and be happy. But I am cheap and don't care when some arrogant SOB looks down on me and says "oh, you just have an R/T". That actually happened.
That said, I agree that buying the most you can is the better long range plan. Mod's won't return anything on the investment, but an upscale model will. And if you don't want to do any mods or can't do them yourself, the SP will make sure you don't later wonder if you should have bought one instead. I know I agonized over trading mine for an SP, but after selling the 5.7 I had, I would gladly jump back into one without the stipulation that "someday I trade up".
Funny thing is, my dilemma is generally more "can I live without the 2015+ interior".
And yes I got on it getting on the freeway.
Last I looked, the difference for an SP was about 10K over an R/T. But I have been clean for a couple of months and haven't done any car shopping so maybe it isn't as much now.
For me, IF you can do the work yourself, I think the R/T is the best bang for the buck. Make sure to buy one with the STP package (or a 2019+) to get the better suspension. Maybe even one with the Handling Package to get the Brembos. Then add the 6.4 cam, intake and exhaust and be happy. But I am cheap and don't care when some arrogant SOB looks down on me and says "oh, you just have an R/T". That actually happened.
That said, I agree that buying the most you can is the better long range plan. Mod's won't return anything on the investment, but an upscale model will. And if you don't want to do any mods or can't do them yourself, the SP will make sure you don't later wonder if you should have bought one instead. I know I agonized over trading mine for an SP, but after selling the 5.7 I had, I would gladly jump back into one without the stipulation that "someday I trade up".
Funny thing is, my dilemma is generally more "can I live without the 2015+ interior".
Exactly. It’s driving dynamics are FWD biased people. Zzzzzzz
Just comparing numbers on paper shows some people just don’t get it.
Funny, I am working hard to duplicate the feel of my past 2015 R/T 6M STP with my 1974 Duster 360 4bbl 4 speed. Suspension is mostly there, but the T56 swap is when the real fun will start.
Be easier for me to buy another R/T, but where's the fun (and pain) in that?
2022 Challenger R/T Shaker. 2017 Ram 1500 Laramie. 2010 Mustang V6 Premium.
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Hey.
I haven’t actually gotten my new car but I test drove the 5.7 R/T M6 and the Scat M6, for me I picked the 5.7 here where I live in Canada the Scat with all the same options as my on order R/T (Fully Loaded) The price was an insane jump.
I didn’t mind that teeny bit of power loss I really like the R/T so my choice would be that.
You are your own person with your own money, you want the Scat you do that (rhyme) it’s your car.
Whatever you pick enjoy it and don’t regret it cause your kinda stuck with it!
I haven’t actually gotten my new car but I test drove the 5.7 R/T M6 and the Scat M6, for me I picked the 5.7 here where I live in Canada the Scat with all the same options as my on order R/T (Fully Loaded) The price was an insane jump.
I didn’t mind that teeny bit of power loss I really like the R/T so my choice would be that.
You are your own person with your own money, you want the Scat you do that (rhyme) it’s your car.
Whatever you pick enjoy it and don’t regret it cause your kinda stuck with it!
"Paper Racers." It never changes. 😆
We rented a GT about 3 weeks ago. Pretty decked out, heated seats and everything. Cruising down the road, it would be hard to tell if it was an HC or a GT. That is until I could have used the bigger brakes of the HC and hit the stupid deer. Either way, I was enjoying the car until “the incident”, much more than I would have in a Camry.I bought a V6. I didn't buy a muscle car, I bought a cool car with plenty of room. I don't race anyone, Camry's or Mustangs
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i have a 392. Love it. That said ive got a 2020 ram with a 5.7 and 390 gears and even it isnt a joke by a long shot. Matter of fact it would woop many of the muscle cars ive owned in the past. So those who think a 5.7 is lame probably havent drove one.
It's not bad, but when you get used to the power of it and then go drive a 392.....you see that the the 392 is a better engine/more power
I loved my 5.7, but after 6 months I got used to it & just knew I was missing out on not having a 392. Then I went down that rabbit hole and never looked back
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Same way with the A8 crowd....."it's quicker, faster, cooler and to date, I've never lost a street-race to a M6, well, I've never really raced a M6 but Motortrend said it was way quicker so I know I would win". I admit, the A8 has proven to be a tad quicker but the average Challenger owner runs out of talent in either platform long before the performance runs out.
You can't go wrong with either 5.7 or 6.4, auto or manual. Main thing is to get out and enjoy it and don't keep it hid in a garage so your kids can sell it when you are gone.
I love how defensive everyone gets on both sides when an OP asks for opinions. Each person's opinion isn't a personal dig on anyone else's personal car. They're just each of our own experience/preference/opinion. No one should take it as a personal dig on their car and start making posts justifying anything. No one here owes anyone else any sort of justification or explanation.
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So you calling our cars a “dog” isn’t a personal dig? We’re car people, otherwise we’d be driving Camrys.
No, it`s not. I don't know you, or your car. The 5.7 I drove was a complete dog compared to the 6.4. Its a fact, not a dig. I suppose I could have said it was "100hp less and 100ft lb less in power." All i'm saying is, don't let the opinion/personal experience of a fellow internet forum idiot ruin your day. It's not worth the hassle to feel offended over my personal experience. Btw, the 5.7 is a great motor. My ram has 210k on its 5.7.
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