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245 tires vs 275 tires

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Why all hate on the 245"s.......lol......had a post of if i should upgrade to the 275"s............i have a 2023 scat pack.........yes it spins the tires some what..........not sure if the 275"s would be much better.............is there that much difference to upgrade to the 275"s...............just curious

Rich
 
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From my own experience, 245s slipped too much. Morning due, light throttle, concrete, traction control on, rolling at 45, I would slip it I blipped the throttle... which is unsafe im my opinion.

Some of that is due to the all seasons, some of it is due to the tire width. If you do get 275s, make sure you get at least a 9" rim, 9.5" is ideal
 
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is there that much difference to upgrade to the 275"s
Well, besides the obvious 30mm difference, the stock Goodyear RS-A’s are some of the worst tires I’ve had on a vehicle (I have them on my Charger).

A better compound in the same width would be miles better, but a wider tire even in the same terrible RS-A’s would most likely be much better.

For comparison, I have the 275 all-season Perelli P-Zero’s on my Challenger. While certainly not the best tire out there, they are immensely better than the 245 RS-A’s that come standard on the Challenger and Chargers.
 
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I’ve actually spied some P275/40R20 Pirelli P-Zero Summer take-offs with under 200 miles on them for $500.

I may actually buy them before they get gone, then mount them on a set of these American Racing Wheels:

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My experience with the OE (optional) summer performance 245 Goodyear Super Car tires does not support this statement. Regardless of ambient and road temperature they would basically go up in smoke with minimal throttle pressure in first and second gear and could be spun easily in third. On the other hand the 275 Continental DWS 06+ have far greater traction in all conditions. If you want to spin them you have to put a little effort into it.

If you go wider, you also have to get new wheels. The wheels on 245 cars are 9". You need a minimum of 9.5" wheels to use a 275. Mounting a 275 on a 9" wheel just rolls the tread up into the sidewall and it remains a 245 (which is why people claim to have no fitment issues when doing that... it narrows the tire when you mount it to a wheel that's too small).
Most 275 tires are rated for use on 9" to 10" wheels. I have seen many 275's on 9" wheels with resulting correct contact patch.
 
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12.5% wider can only help. I think a lot has to do with members also changing brand/make of tire. Better traction tire AND 12.5% wider
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#11 ·
If you go wider, you also have to get new wheels. The wheels on 245 cars are 9". You need a minimum of 9.5" wheels to use a 275. Mounting a 275 on a 9" wheel just rolls the tread up into the sidewall and it remains a 245 (which is why people claim to have no fitment issues when doing that... it narrows the tire when you mount it to a wheel that's too small).
 
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Here is a photo of two new 245/45-20 and 274/40-20 tires. Even unmounted, there is a significant contact patch difference.

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It would be nice to take a yard stick to those and tell us the width of the tread, the overall width and the overall height. The DOT should be disbanded for many reasons, one of them being their inability to assure every xxx/yy-zz tire matches every other xxx/yy-zz tire in size.
 
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🤷‍♂️Not sure about all that. What I know is that 9.5" rim is ideal for 275/40/20. Why argue about cooking a frozen pizza in a toaster, just do it right the first time and put it in the oven 🤣.

It read to me like you are advocating for running 275/40/20 on a smaller rim. Granted I didnt read everything, a couple of the links you provided suggests that it is acceptable to run a 275/40/20 on 8", 8.5" and 9" rims. I will agree that 9" is the absolute smallest rim for a 275/40/20, but for ideal contact patch and proper rim-to-tire fitment, I suggest a 9.5" rim.
 
#30 ·
Wow, lol............didnt think i would get this much info.........im gonna go with the 275 later this summer........but im not having too many traction problems with the 245"s..........i can take off pretty good without spinning them to death. You boys must have a heavier foot than me........lol

Once thanks for the great info

Rich
 
#33 ·
Just another vote for the 275, on the rear especially. I kept the 245 upfront so now have the staggered set-up. I also experienced way too much tire spin with the Goodyears that came on the car. I definitely feel the difference but you need to get a quality brand as well. With tires, you get what you pay for. I went with the Goodyear Exhilarate which is amazing on both my '14 Mustang GT and now my R/T. Just as pricey as the Michelin Pilot Sports but it's about as good as it gets. 'Top of the line' and Made in USA. They look great on the R/T as well.

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#45 ·
I only wish that I could find 9.5 inch wheels similar in appearance to my factory 8-inch machined wheels with granite pockets that came on my 2022 Challenger RT Plus. I could keep 245 tires up front on the factory 8-inch rims, but different 9.5 inch rear wheels to fit 275 tires would ruin the 4-wheel match in appearance. I've yet to find a wheel design that comes close to the standard RT Plus wheels (no Performance Handling Group package). I am hesitant to swap out factory wheels for aftermarket cast wheels. I wonder if 9.5 inch MOPAR wheels, normally available for the PHG equipped Challengers, would fit the front spindle on my 2022 RT Plus.
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