Just do it yourself and get the powerstop kit its stupidly easy

 

but is it true on these type of cars when break pads are worn out and ready for replace , we have to install new pads and rotors ? Or is he Bullshitting me ? What is power stop kits ?

 

The rotors alone can be found for around $1,200.00 each from an on-line dealer and the pad kit is over $500.00. That gets you to around $3,000.00.

The published retail price for factory pads and rotors is over $4,300.00

Aftermarket parts are out there.

 

When the pads are worn yes of course rotors usually not the first time around. Post a pic of your car by the way!

 

Rotor replacement depends on the condition of the surface. If the rotor surface is damaged due to metal-to-metal contact they will need to be replaced. If they are relatively flat you can replace the pads only. You will need to bed the pads into the worn rotors. The breaking effectiveness is less until the new pads wear into the uneven surface of the used rotors.

 

Surface of rotors are good but he’s saying these are race cars and not regular cars where you only replace brake pads when worn . Need to replace both when pads need to be replaced because they are slotted rotors and brembo breaks .

 

Here is a page from my 2020 factory service manual. The 2023 brakes are slightly different part numbers but the principle applies.

 

Can't turn slotted rotors, and most designs on many cars for a number of years do not have enough thickness for turning anyway, it is a weight savings. Many shops no longer even have the tools for turning brakes.

Replacing rotors with pads is the standard recommendation for these brakes. However... if the slots are all still clearly visible, the rotors do not have grooves, and there is no pulsation or shimmy when applying brakes, then you can likely get away with just a pad replacement as long as you bed them properly afterwards. It also means the dealership will probably not do the work for you.

Powerstop is a non-oem (aftermarket) brake part maker, many folks here use them instead of oem parts.

If switching from oem to power stop, you really should do all four corners at the same time. Neither Brembo not Powerstop support mixing friction materials on different axles, though they will sell the parts for just one. Not many do this (both axles when changing materials) either.

Anything other than the dealership requires finding a shop or doing the work yourself. And also consider for any path other than replacing rotors when replacing pads, you are saving money by doing less than the recommended service on a critical safety system on a performance car.

It will probably be a few more years before I have to touch my brakes, I'll decide then what path I take. Will likely be oem parts (both pads and rotors) installed by me in my garage. Then to the dealership for a power bleed and fluid flush.

You must be having a lot of fun with your '23 to already need new brakes.

 

This is crazy…no you don’t need to replace the rotors with the pads unless they measure below the minimum spec.

I don’t see how this is possible with a 2023 and surprised the pads need replacing so soon.

I believe the spec when new is 34mm and they need to be replaced at 30mm. This is for the rotors.

They are really easy to replace at home in your garage.

 

The answer is no, unless the rotors are ALSO worn. Let’s see them. How many miles? Measure the thickness of the rotor if those slots show lots of wear.

 

What's the average milage we can expect from these giant expensive rotors in normal driving conditions?

 

I've seen folks shocked at only getting 20K miles. Cost of these parts is a shock multiplier. I expect 60K with how I drive, I have fun mostly on back roads and engine braking (M6) minimizes my brake pedal use.

I do sometimes have to do a series of hard stops to get deposits off the rotors (pulsation) so I know my use is on the light side. I can be more aggressive without reducing life much.

 

You should also measure the pads yourself and make sure they need replaced. The attached gauge is easy to use and very inexpensive.

Replacing pads around 4-5mm is common.

 

19k miles on my scat pack widebody. Dealership service guy said these slotted rotors don't get re-surfaced when pads are replaced with new pads. Dealership re-surface rotors when new pads get replaced but since these types of rotors can't get resurfaced, they just replace pads with new rotors.

 

They can be resurfaced but it takes a special machine and only a few shops have it. I’ll post the website if I can find it again. It will tell you which shops have the machine.

 

Looks like this kit will fit the Widebody and a lot less than $5,000!

 

These are good substitute for my 6 inch brembo brakes ?

 

Thanks guys, im going with these for my front brake pads. I'm just going to replace break pads and leave my rotors on there.

Power Stop 16-23 Charger/Challenger 6 Piston Front Z23 Evolution Sport (797performance.com)

 

Does anyone have part numbers for the OEM Widebody front and r ear rotors + pads?

 

I'm glad my scat has 4 piston brakes

 

I honestly didn’t even pay attention to the brakes when I bought mine. Just made sure they worked lol. I didn’t realize they all didn’t come with 6 pistons #facepalm

 

A Guy

 

most modern brake rotors have ~ 2mm of wear material (that's 1mm on each side) - after one set of brake pads, there's not much material remaining to work with

turning or resurfacing rotors probably would take them down to the wear minimum thickness - and they'd have to be replaced

older cars 60s / 70s tended to have solid rotors (vs. todays vented rotors) so there was a more material as wear area - so it was possible to resurface a rotor for a 2nd set of pads going on (providing it wasn't scored, overheated, warped)

 

The Brembo pads make a LOT of dust. This suggests a somewhat soft compound that would be more kind to the rotors. If that observation is correct I'd much rather wash the wheels more often than buy ~$1,200.00 a pop rotors at every pad change.

 

Rough crowd tonight.

 

Amazon has the replacement Power Stop kit for around $800.00 Front/rear pads and rotors. (6 piston front)

There’s sooooooo much counterfeit crap on Amazon (and eBay) anymore…..that one of the last things I’d buy from there would be friction material for any vehicle.

 

First thing I did was install Power Stop rotors and brake pads in place of the OEM parts. Now, no dust

 

In regards to Amazon and counterfeiters, you would be surprised how much better Walmart online is than you would expect. I try to go there instead of Amazon.

 

Sorry I posted it.

 

Don't worry about it. Most Amazon stuff is good, just need to figure out who the actual seller is; Amazon used to have 3rd parties as Z shops but got sued for undercutting other sellers. Now sellers look almost like Amazon and most folks do not drill down. I have not drilled down on your link.

Many legitimate sellers do have good product on Amazon at excellent prices.

 

is nobody asking what the hell are you doing with your car that you need brakes and rotors on a 23 ???? I’m guessing that car is best to **** already and won’t last very long - so just put cheap **** on it IMO

 

is nobody asking what the hell are you doing with your car that you need brakes and rotors on a 23 ???? I’m guessing that car is best to ** already and won’t last very long - so just put cheap ** on it IMO

Yeah. I guess I missed that part. What IS he doing to need pads AND rotors after a year. Lmao!

 

still have not seen a pic of the car...fishy

 

Just for the hell of it I went to the local dealer for price quotes on stock front pads and rotors for my '22 SPWB.
$884 bucks for pads lol.
That total doesn't include dealer instalation not that I would ever let them touch my car.
Part #s are there if anyone needs them.

 

This is the dumbest quote I have ever seen.

Just for the hell of it I went to the local dealer for price quotes on stock front pads and rotors for my '22 SPWB.
$884 bucks for pads lol.
That total doesn't include dealer instalation not that I would ever let them touch my car.
Part #s are there if anyone needs them.
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