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5.0 more than a sec. slower in 1/4 mile. Your results may vary, but head to head, with comparable drivers, 5.0 vs 1320...1320 wins View attachment 1033405
I guess this is a good example of auto vs manual in the Mustang. A heavy GT convertible (10 auto) accelerates better than a Bullitt (6 manual).
 
Running against a 5.0 with a 10 speed automatic will not be a guaranteed win, no matter how many 392 guys tell you otherwise.
 
Theres no guarantees in life, but I would take an 11.7 over a 12.1 all day long...would prefer a 10.xx .. Lose a couple grand by 6 hundreaths of a second, then tell me a half a second isnt that much.
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Just going to leave this clip here for u guys

Why? You weren't really pulling on him at all and then he let off when he saw you weren't catching up. He wasn't pulling away at all either so /shrug. Must have been a 6MT or the old A6.

Not like you guys lined up. He let off after starting off way ahead and you did a flyby. That wasn't a race at all.
 
That SUV smoked you at the beginning :p

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The 1320 isn’t a fair comparison since it has a Transbrake and the Mustang doesn’t. An RT 392 and a 5.0 mustang are going to run neck & neck, same with the Camaro SS. I spent the night running against them last week at the dragstrip and whoever gets the better launch wins.
 
So my previous car was a 2013 Mustang GT Premium (heaviest configuration, lots of options/content) with manual trans and 3.31 axle gear.

My new car is a 2013 Challenger SRT8 (heaviest configuration, lots of options/content) with manual trans and 3.91 axle gear.

To be fair, the Mustang had a CAI, axle-back exhaust, and was tuned by Steeda. Otherwise stock. 107k miles. The Challenger has cat-back straight exhaust and I assume is otherwise stock. 75k miles.

I can tell you for certain that after spending two years in the Mustang I got a great feel for it and I was very familiar with the time it took to run from 55 to 120ish. Tonight for the first time I got a chance to take the Challenger out on a wide open road with no traffic and stretch its legs. I dropped to 3rd @ 55 MPH just as I always would with the Mustang, then pinned the throttle and ran out 3rd and 4th. Did this a couple of times. To my surprise the 392 didn't feel anywhere near as strong as the little 302 Ford motor. The Coyote will actually pin you in the seat a little bit, and the rush of power is pretty wild especially above 5,000 RPM. The Hemi doesn't feel that way at all. It seemed to take forever for the speedo to climb....70......80......90.... I was actually a little surprised.

Granted, the Challenger is around 500 lbs. heavier. So we can't forget that. BUT, it's got more advertised horsepower and much deeper axle gearing (though the MT82 trans in the Mustang is geared deeper, so maybe that's a wash.)

Let me say this, I LOVE both cars. I've always been a Ford and Mopar guy at the same time. I'm planning to keep this Challenger forever. It's such a bad ass car. So I certainly will not talk trash about the Hemi. But I would bet all the cash in my wallet right now that in a roll race the Mustang would trounce the Challenger. Would probably put at least a car or two on it at 120 MPH. I wish I still had the Mustang because it would be interesting to actually run the two at the track and see where the times actually fall. Nevertheless, I'm back in a Mopar again and I suppose that now my next move will be to try and find some bolt-ons to wake this Hemi up a little bit. I DO NOT want to run into 5.0 cars this summer and get embarrassed.
 
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So my previous car was a 2013 Mustang GT Premium (heaviest configuration, lots of options/content) with manual trans and 3.31 axle gear.

My new car is a 2013 Challenger SRT8 (heaviest configuration, lots of options/content) with manual trans and 3.91 axle gear.

To be fair, the Mustang had a CAI, axle-back exhaust, and was tuned by Steeda. Otherwise stock. 107k miles. The Challenger has cat-back straight exhaust and I assume is otherwise stock. 75k miles.

I can tell you for certain that after spending two years in the Mustang I got a great feel for it and I was very familiar with the time it took to run from 55 to 120ish. Tonight for the first time I got a chance to take the Challenger out on a wide open road with no traffic and stretch its legs. I dropped to 3rd @ 55 MPH just as I always would with the Mustang, then pinned the throttle and ran out 3rd and 4th. Did this a couple of times. To my surprise the 392 didn't feel anywhere near as strong as the little 302 Ford motor. The Coyote will actually pin you in the seat a little bit, and the rush of power is pretty wild especially above 5,000 RPM. The Hemi doesn't feel that way at all. It seemed to take forever for the speedo to climb....70......80......90.... I was actually a little surprised.

Granted, the Challenger is around 500 lbs. heavier. So we can't forget that. BUT, it's got more advertised horsepower and much deeper axle gearing (though the MT82 trans in the Mustang is geared deeper, so maybe that's a wash.)

Let me say this, I LOVE both cars. I've always been a Ford and Mopar guy at the same time. I'm planning to keep this Challenger forever. It's such a bad ass car. So I certainly will not talk trash about the Hemi. But I would bet all the cash in my wallet right now that in a roll race the Mustang would trounce the Challenger. Would probably put at least a car or two on it at 120 MPH. I wish I still had the Mustang because it would be interesting to actually run the two at the track and see where the times actually fall. Nevertheless, I'm back in a Mopar again and I suppose that now my next move will be to try and find some bolt-ons to wake this Hemi up a little bit. I DO NOT want to run into 5.0 cars this summer and get embarrassed.
Not saying your Chally should or should not outrun the Mustang, but I am surprised at your comment about weak acceleration. The scenario you described was literally one of my favorite moves in my '12... Cruising along at 55, down into 3rd and mash the pedal, tires chirp and off we go! My wife used to say that gave her butterflies in her stomach :cool:. Other than a canned tune, cat-back and cai, had no other mods, so I feel like it shouldn't take much to get yours in a place where you respect its performance and response. I'm honestly looking forward to reading about your journey with this '13, it reminds me so much of mine, I'm kind of re-living vicariously ;)
 
So my previous car was a 2013 Mustang GT Premium (heaviest configuration, lots of options/content) with manual trans and 3.31 axle gear.

My new car is a 2013 Challenger SRT8 (heaviest configuration, lots of options/content) with manual trans and 3.91 axle gear.

To be fair, the Mustang had a CAI, axle-back exhaust, and was tuned by Steeda. Otherwise stock. 107k miles. The Challenger has cat-back straight exhaust and I assume is otherwise stock. 75k miles.

I can tell you for certain that after spending two years in the Mustang I got a great feel for it and I was very familiar with the time it took to run from 55 to 120ish. Tonight for the first time I got a chance to take the Challenger out on a wide open road with no traffic and stretch its legs. I dropped to 3rd @ 55 MPH just as I always would with the Mustang, then pinned the throttle and ran out 3rd and 4th. Did this a couple of times. To my surprise the 392 didn't feel anywhere near as strong as the little 302 Ford motor. The Coyote will actually pin you in the seat a little bit, and the rush of power is pretty wild especially above 5,000 RPM. The Hemi doesn't feel that way at all. It seemed to take forever for the speedo to climb....70......80......90.... I was actually a little surprised.

Granted, the Challenger is around 500 lbs. heavier. So we can't forget that. BUT, it's got more advertised horsepower and much deeper axle gearing (though the MT82 trans in the Mustang is geared deeper, so maybe that's a wash.)

Let me say this, I LOVE both cars. I've always been a Ford and Mopar guy at the same time. I'm planning to keep this Challenger forever. It's such a bad ass car. So I certainly will not talk trash about the Hemi. But I would bet all the cash in my wallet right now that in a roll race the Mustang would trounce the Challenger. Would probably put at least a car or two on it at 120 MPH. I wish I still had the Mustang because it would be interesting to actually run the two at the track and see where the times actually fall. Nevertheless, I'm back in a Mopar again and I suppose that now my next move will be to try and find some bolt-ons to wake this Hemi up a little bit. I DO NOT want to run into 5.0 cars this summer and get embarrassed.
The 392 is pretty well optimized from the factory. Don't expect much in the way of gains unless you forge the internals and SC it. You can throw allot of money at it for minimal gains.
 
At equal weight I think the Challenger wins. The whole problem is the Challenger is a pig.
I agree 100%.

I've had 3 Challengers in different flavors...3.6, 5.7, 6.4. And I've had 4 or 5 Mustangs in different flavors...original 5.0, 4.6 2V, 4.6 3V, 4.6 4V, and new 5.0 Coyote. When you go back and forth between cars, that's when the extra size and weight of the Challenger really becomes apparent.

It's sort of a two sided coin. I (and most people) prefer the Challenger because of it's leg/shoulder/head room, comfort, real back seats, and larger trunk space. But, those are also the same qualities that prevent it from performing well when cars from other brands start picking on you. Ralph Gilles said in an interview that they looked at building a smaller car to compete directly with Mustang/Camaro back in the early years of Challenger, but market research told them that people who bought Challengers WANTED the larger size, comfort, and practicality. So.... I guess it's one of those situations where you "can't have your cake and eat it too".
 
Old thread but good analysis by Wxman above in post #30. The 5.0 Coyote does pin you back in your seat, and the higher the RPM's, the better. I am still amazed at the speed of my 420 HP 2014 GT. It is actually very similar to my old C6 with it's 430 HP LS3. The only negative with the Mustang is keeping that rear end straight.
 
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Well, I have this friend with a 2022 GT 350. I consistently beat her with my 2012 5.7. And then.... Her husband taught her how to drive the 350 and that was the end of that. The 5.0 Yote with direct injection is one mean little bugger. Driven correctly and with it's far superior HP to weight ratio, there is no way a Scat is going to touch it.
 
Did you say Yote? :D
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