Hello my dudes, I'm from the Great white north and I'm in the process of buying, well starting to buy a challenger. I'm looking around and kind of stuck between three different ones. The rt, scat pack and the ta. I see the differences online and brochures and blogs but like I'm looking for advice on it from people that own them.
R/T vs Scat Pack
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I dunno, I looked earlier today and Car and Driver? had a V6 Camry doing 14.2 at 139 mph...isnt the internet awesome? 😆
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Even if my R/T was slower than a Camry, I couldn’t care less. It’s as quick as a stock 426 Sreet Hemi, and that’s good enough to give me a thrill.
I’m well aware of the difference between a 5.7 and a 6.4. I’ve owned both, and ran both down the strip.
The Scat has a more responsive throttle, which, like a Pedal Commander, makes it feel even quicker.
What’s everyone who MUST have the quickest car going to do when these 3.0 second 0-60 EVs start hitting the streets in numbers?
I’m well aware of the difference between a 5.7 and a 6.4. I’ve owned both, and ran both down the strip.
The Scat has a more responsive throttle, which, like a Pedal Commander, makes it feel even quicker.
What’s everyone who MUST have the quickest car going to do when these 3.0 second 0-60 EVs start hitting the streets in numbers?
Uh yeah! 👍🏻
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Lots to consider here including your long term plans with the car. I always recommend that people get the best trim they can afford as far as power goes. The 5.7 will get you a bit better gas mileage if that's really important to you it may be a consideration. If it's not a primary concern I'd say get the most motor you can afford. The 5.7 is nice and punchy down low in stock form but runs out of legs as rpms increase. The 6.4 just keeps pulling all the way to redline and really sinks you back in your seat no matter what RPM you're going, it's a great motor! The other side of it is you're in Canada like me, prices are insane. Anything new with a 6.4 is going to be very high 60's and into the 70k range. I mean Hellcats are 90+ right now, it's kinda brutal. So if budget is a concern the 5.7 is still a lot of fun and if you went that route and stick with the car long term and wanted to up the power it doesn't take much to get it to Scatpack power territory as well. Lots of options, depends what your situation is.
Don't need to buy on dealership lots where they jack up the price so much from all the options. Mine was mid to late 50's from factory. Dynamics package, red brake calipers, and manual transmission. And I still have the SRT dashboard and big touchscreen.
Camry 0-60:
Dodge Challenger 5.7L R/T, from the factory spec sheet:
The RT can go all the way to a blistering 155 miles per hour! It also gets there much more quickly than its counterpart, with a 0 to 60 mph timeframe of only 5.2 seconds.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a V6 Camry will stop light to stop light beat your R/T. Maybe not in the quarter mile (.5 difference), but the Camry wins in the 1/8 by a tenth. A Camry.
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Show evidence of a stock Camry running quicker than 8.7 in the 1/8 mile, please.
See post #23 in the thread below.
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My car (and others on this forum) will 0-60 in 5.0 or less.
I personally couldn’t care less if a Camry is quicker than my car, I just dislike misinformation.
See post #23 in the thread below.
5.7 Hemi HP ratings in the R/T?
Hey all, I’ve noticed the 5.7 in the trucks are making 395hp and 410tq with a more restrictive exhaust while the 5.7 in the chargers and challengers are making around 375 and 400tq with a better dual exhaust also I think the trucks are made to run on 87. Is there a specific reason for this? Why...
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My car (and others on this forum) will 0-60 in 5.0 or less.
I personally couldn’t care less if a Camry is quicker than my car, I just dislike misinformation.
A tenth of a second here or there is nothing. A Camry that is 0-60 in low 5s is impressive. However a Camry has no presence like a Challenger. Significant differences are a half second 0-60 at least, same in the quarter mile. 5 mph or more is also a significant difference in the 1/4.
Also, I don't care about fast electric cars. They are soulless IMO. They can be impressively fast, sure. But for how long? The Mach E has a 5 second full acceleration timer, then acceleration SLOWS A LOT! To save the battery. Also, 10 minute charging refills are still a long way away. It took me 2 minutes and 39 seconds to get 16 gallons yesterday, from when I opened my car door to when I got back in.
OP, get the most car you can, the days are numbered for these awesome ICE machines.
Also, I don't care about fast electric cars. They are soulless IMO. They can be impressively fast, sure. But for how long? The Mach E has a 5 second full acceleration timer, then acceleration SLOWS A LOT! To save the battery. Also, 10 minute charging refills are still a long way away. It took me 2 minutes and 39 seconds to get 16 gallons yesterday, from when I opened my car door to when I got back in.
OP, get the most car you can, the days are numbered for these awesome ICE machines.
"I personally couldn’t care less if a Camry is quicker than my car." Best quote of the thread.
Does anyone interested in muscle or sports cars really want to drive a Camry instead of an R/T Hemi?? I've driven and owned the 1st gen cars, like I posted earlier, and these new 5.7 Hemi R/T Challengers have basically the same times as the 426 Hemi or 440 engines. Aren't those cars extremely desirable and pricey today?? I wish I had mine back again.
I think there are just some posters on this forum that like to stir the pot or honestly feel that speed is the only consideration when buying a car. For the latter, enjoy the new electrics that will smoke many Challengers. If an EV was given to me free I would sell it immediately. No soul, no nothing. Faster? So what? Why would any fellow Challenger owner want to put down another Challenger? I enjoy posters that love their 6 cylinder cars as much as the Hellcat owners. Such personal choices and for so many reasons.
Does anyone interested in muscle or sports cars really want to drive a Camry instead of an R/T Hemi?? I've driven and owned the 1st gen cars, like I posted earlier, and these new 5.7 Hemi R/T Challengers have basically the same times as the 426 Hemi or 440 engines. Aren't those cars extremely desirable and pricey today?? I wish I had mine back again.
I think there are just some posters on this forum that like to stir the pot or honestly feel that speed is the only consideration when buying a car. For the latter, enjoy the new electrics that will smoke many Challengers. If an EV was given to me free I would sell it immediately. No soul, no nothing. Faster? So what? Why would any fellow Challenger owner want to put down another Challenger? I enjoy posters that love their 6 cylinder cars as much as the Hellcat owners. Such personal choices and for so many reasons.
Not worried about racing spec sheets. Driver skill or decent tires will cover much more than that .1 seconds (for either car), but you won't ever see anyone with shoe polish numbers and drag radials on their Camry come monday morning. I'm not worried about the Camry, there will always be someone faster.
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It's fun to see the 5.7 crew coming out to defend their cars and all, but you guys are forgetting the topic of this thread. The OP was asking which car to look at, and I gave my suggestion and reasons why. To me, any muscle car that is either slower than, or even in the same performance group as a common Camry, just isn't a muscle car I'd be interested in spending money on. Especially since you can spend just a little more to get something that's entirely thrilling and performs at a much higher level.
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To each his own. Plenty of us 5.7 owners are perfectly satisfied, and we’re also entitled to our opinions.
I am, even after having had “something that’s entirely thrilling and performs at a much higher level” (2017 Scat Pack).
As ludicrous as it may sound, happiness CAN be had with a 5.7.
I am, even after having had “something that’s entirely thrilling and performs at a much higher level” (2017 Scat Pack).
As ludicrous as it may sound, happiness CAN be had with a 5.7.
Same here. I sold an incredibly quick LS3 C6 to get my Mopar 'muscle car' back. Talk about quick! I 'floored it' maybe 3 times the entire time I owned it. You just can't use the speed unless you are a track guy or love to race. I enjoyed the car immensely but lack of space was the final setback for me and my wife, plus I always wanted a 'new' Challenger. I didn't want to lose the color though, going from Atomic Orange to Go Mango. 😎
Who cares what the Camry does.
I would. Then again, I don't like the idea of driving a sports car that's whooped by a $28,000 grocery-getter. The R/Ts look nice, but they're only 385hp on a 4500lb car. Folks are all well and good to like and enjoy their cars for their own reasons. Just, for me, I don't pay a premium for a cool sports car that doesn't perform better than the average commuter car. Overall, the R/T is just a pretty slow car by anyone's metrics. In 2008, it was a neat car. It just hasn't improved much since. By today's standards, the 5.7L R/T looks cool, sounds and feels like a nice V8, but it has the performance of a small V6 with the MPG of a V8.
The problem with the R/T in 2022 is that it is getting very long in the tooth and common non-sporty cars are either eclipsing the R/T in performance, or are at least getting very close. Thus, when you spend close to $50,000 on a Challenger R/T, you're getting a $29,000 Mustang EcoBoost in terms of overall performance for a hefty price increase.
The Challenger is a "sports car"?
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The misinformation is endless…
You do realize the new EcoBoost HO version can scoot to 0-60 in under 5s right?
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