Barton
Cdv delete
Disable 2nd gear lockout

 

I give up. What’s CDV?

 

Photos ?????????

 

 

Nice car. Was that an even swap or did you gave to throw some cash at it?

 

My goal was to do an even swap but I did throw some $$. I guess I self-brainwashed thinking that 1) my tires were about to be changed, 2) additional equipment was close to $3K, 3) 19K miles vs 3K miles, and 4) 2021 vs 2022

 

Hello guys, I just wanted to share a recent compulsive trade I did last week.

Been looking at this one recently a bit as well, but the only bad part about the M6 is I can’t have any adult beverages if we go out to eat, as the wife hasn’t mastered a manual transmission well.

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To some a manual trans is a "no dice" but to me...it literally is not the case.

 

It is definitely a different experience, in a very positive way.

 

Nice shifter!!

 

The nice thing about a manual is that you won’t need to fish around in the bottom of a purse to find your keys anymore.

 

crying right now with my stock shift knob and old interior design

 

No way! The 100th cars had one of the best interior put in our cars! Aaaaaaand the pistol grip is the best too. You’re in good shape my friend! This coming from a guy who’s owned 10 Challengers from 2013-2023 (manuals and autos) including two Hellcats.

 

The seats and the steering wheel are great, i just hate the dashboard and everything else compared to the 2015+.

The shifter is fine, it accommodates to your hand perfectly because of its embossment but I like my hand over the shifter not the side.

 

As far as straight line acceleration, automatics have pretty much always been faster.

As far as road racing, it wasn’t until fairly recent history that automatics got respectable.

The ZF is a top-notch trans, but my car is a 2010. I don’t think the old 5-speed would stand much chance against a manual car on a road track.

 

Whyyyy???

Cars are all numbers

Physics

A swing and a miss…

The n/a cars got the wrong ratios

 

I’m reading each line as a separate individual post.

 

barton shifter with pistolgrip best investment u can make

 

 

That’s cute, except a torque converter equipped automatic transmission actually multiplies torque

Come out tmrw nite

Bring a jacket

And a helmet

Oh yeah, your car has a manual… prolly won’t be quick enough to necessitate either of those items : )

 

That’s cute, except a torque converter equipped automatic transmission actually multiplies torque

Come out tmrw nite

Bring a jacket

And a helmet

Oh yeah, your car has a manual… prolly won’t be quick enough to necessitate either of those items : )

The ZF is so damn impressive. When driving a Hellcat in track mode, it slams you so hard at WOT that your head literally snaps. I enjoy driving manual muscle cars but there is no denying the precision and performance of modern automatics.

 

Everyone knows by now that an automatic is a few fractions of a second quicker than a manual transmission in a racing environment where you're against the timer. They're faster than the human body at changing gears reliably and repeatedly. This has been the case since the mid-60's TorqueFlites came out. That dead horse has been well beaten.

However, very few people actively race these cars, so it's a moot point. For my part, I don't give a single rip about that imperceptible difference in day-to-day driving. It's all about the driving experience for me. Being connected to the car. Being engaged in the act of driving. Feeling the mechanical presence of the machine. It's just cool. I get enough automatic exposure on my frequent rental car experiences. There's nothing at all wrong with them, but it's just not as pleasurable a driving experience. For me anyway.

If you want to compete in timed acceleration trials, get the automatic; I would if I wished to race competitively. But if you want to have a cool experience, get the manual. I've never once regretted it.

To each, their own.

Cheers!

JD

 

I don’t think that this has become a manual vs. auto debate (again). At least that wasn’t the point of my posts. My point was that while the older autos may have been faster than manuals too, the ZF is even faster and is a pleasurable driving experience as well. It doesn’t have just be for racing applications. I love manuals in muscle cars, my Mustang has one. If I was going to buy a Scat Pack, I’d get another M6 car. A Hellcat or Demon on their other hand is a completely different conversation when it comes to the ZF automatic transmission. You can’t even get a Demon with a manual and the HC manuals have had durability issues. The ZF is amazing in a high horsepower car and it’s fun too!

 

It's fun squeezing a throttle and going fast - no doubt about it.

But nothing can touch the satisfaction of perfectly executed power shifts or perfected matched downshifts.

 

I drive back roads. My M6 Scat is more than enough. I like the physical connection of the M6 to the driving experience.

For me on my roads, the M6 is basically a 4-speed with 2 extra very rarely used gears.

What I do not do is "row down the avenue" in rush-hour traffic. If I still had to deal with that crud a lot, I would prefer an automatic.

 

A Guy

 

Or.....

 

4,000 RPM clutch dumps are amazing.

 

Yup and so far only thing that seems to break is the tires and not the powdered metal rods.

 

4000 RPM Clutch dump ain’t squat

You gotta try 9000

Launch limiter at 9000

High side limiter at 13,200

 

Revving to 9000 with no load, that will definitely ruin those hemi rods. 🙈🙉🙊

 

If autos stopped losing power through the drivetrain then apparently I missed it.

Will be interesting to see what kind of numbers my 6L80E puts down.

 

If anyone is looking for a new R/T with a manual, the local Dodge dealer here in Knoxville has 5 new Challengers with the 6 speed.