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339 oil filter vs 899. What's the consensus?

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#1 ·
My '15 RT M6 came with the 339 size oil filter, and I'm tempted to stick with OEM, except that size is a bit of pain to find locally. I know some have switched to the 899 filter size. Has anyone who had switched had any issues or problems?



Also, I know some of you were recommending the SRT filter as a replacement. I've read various things about that. One article said that filter was meant to maximize flow, and so it doesn't filter as many particles, and would require more frequent changes (life expectancy in the 2-3k range). I don't track my car, so would that really be any benefit at all to me? I live in dusty SoCal, so maximizing filtration is what I'm after. Also the bypass pressure is different on the SRT filter? I'm a little confused on what exactly that means?
 
#2 · (Edited)
The SRT filter "bypasses" at a higher pressure level. What that means is that oil is filtered longer because the oil isn't bypassing the filter.

The SRT has a finer synthetic filtering media, so it will catch finer contamination particles. The media will hold more of this junk too, so it will technically last longer, by filtering longer.

Yes it will flow more, have better filtration, bypass less, and hold more dirt.

Not sure what article you read, but they got it all wrong.
 
#8 ·
My '15 RT M6 came with the 339 size oil filter, and I'm tempted to stick with OEM, except that size is a bit of pain to find locally.
Can't find the 899? It's at many parts stores including Walmart and it's a good filter. Should fit no problem and was the standard 5.7L filter until 2015. I'd run almost any 899 size filter before that little 339.




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#12 ·
Just did my first oil change at 1,000 miles on my 19 R/T. Converted to the SRT filter. The factory filter was miniscule by comparison to the SRT filter. Holy $hit does the factory ever gorilla those filters on. Needed the claw to get the thing off. My fitted socket style/cup filter remover wouldn't work. Maybe they don't oil the gasket at the factory. SRT=better filtration media coupled with greater size.
 
#15 · (Edited)
You sure about that? The video shows MO-836 (older viper filter) and the SRT filter being called out in Luke's post is MO-041 which is newer.

"Filters are different, do not attempt to use the older filter on a newer car. 08 and up use 1-05038041AA ( top of the box will just read MO-041 ) the older ones will say Viper and are the ones listed above ending in 836 AB. The filter box will read MO836 on the top, like the later models reading MO041 -- these are not the actual parts numbers, they are just a quick reference to help when stocking, etc."
https://driveviper.com/forums/threads/3686-2005-oil-question?p=54848&viewfull=1#post54848

MO836 is for pre-2008
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Challenger...ger-300-SRT-SRT8-Mopar-Performance-Oil-Filter-5-7L-6-1L-5-2L-5-9L-/332255395304
https://www.stevewhiteparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-oil-filter-5037836ab

MO041 is for newer engines
https://www.stevewhiteparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-oil-filter-5038041aa
 
#19 ·
Hence my reason for making the distinction. Saying the Viper filter is the SRT filter can lead some members into thinking...oh the M0836 (actually has Viper written on it) is the SRT filter when it is the wrong filter. Basically I don't want people thinking that the filter in the teardown I posted is the filter they should be using. The filter they should be using is MO041 which is the SRT filter that is used on other engines not just the viper.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Will do, but you could have just said that is not the SRT filter we should be using. Instead you say, the viper filter is the SRT filter and when I try to make the distinction you get irritated that you did not catch the difference.

Wait, my apologies john...looks like the new filter is also viper specific but just fits other engines like you state.
 
#22 · (Edited)
I'm not irritated about anything. This is the first SRT filter thread in the 9 years that I've been a member, that anyone has been confused about the fact that pre Challenger engines use a different filter.

'09+ 5.7 and 392's have always used the same filter, and the SRT filter, which is the Viper filter, is an upgrade and fits.

I see your edit, and no problem. We have it easy compared to Charger forums, which have the 6.1, two 5.7's and the 392.

All is cool.
 
#24 ·
All's good. I'm really not sure about the guts of the old vs new filters. Both being for the Viper, they very well may be the same other than the hole/thread size. I really never checked into it.

The SRT is a great upgrade for a filter. Actually the 5.7 folks get the best benefit out of it by having longer oil change intervals.

I can see no way that the SRT's filter media is anywhere near capacity at 6k miles. But we have to change it at 6 months or 6k miles on the 392. Grrrr.
 
#25 ·
Here are the 899 and 041 filters cut apart, and some other info...


SRT Live Webchat - April 15th, 2014 5PM Eastern

SRT engineer round table Q&A April 15, 2014

Q. A lot of owners are starting to use the SRT Viper oil filter on their 5.7, 6.1 and 6.4 engines (SRT filter # 05038041AA). Is there any advantage (or disadvantage) in using this filter vs. the standard Mopar filter?

A. The SRT Viper filter flows better than the stock Purolator filter and requires a higher differential pressure to bypass the filter at cold starts and high demand (Meaning the SRT Viper filter bypass stays closed more often and filters more oil). Both filters will work on the 5.7/6.1/6.4.
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2022 Dodge SRT® | Explore Charger, Challenger & Durango

When an SRT owner takes their vehicle to a driving event with the specific intent of exploring the far reaches of the performance envelope, they can rest assured that the 6.4-liter HEMI engine will sustain proper oil-pressures in extreme cornering conditions. For track-day use, SRT engineers suggest using the SRT oil filter (part number 05038041AA). Originally designed for Viper applications, it works great with all Chrysler V8 engines. The SRT filter features a higher differential pressure bypass valve and reduced pressure loss across the filter element
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"From the SRT Engineers:
The SRT oil filter for all the past engines and the new 22mm inlet SRT filter for the Gen 4 and beyond engines share the same characteristics. We worked with many of the filter suppliers to get the best features. Some fell out for various performance reasons but we ended up developing the current SRT filters with one of the mainstream manufacturers (it is different than their commercial offerings - or at least was when we developed it). The high flow oil pumps in our large engines (Viper is the biggest) can overpower the internal relief valve. When this valve opens it allows some of the high pressure dirty oil to bypass the filter element in order to keep the filter from being damaged. The SRT filters do indeed have a higher differential bypass valve to make sure all the oil delivered to your powerplant is clean. The housing is slightly thicker than many of the brands out there to handle the pressure but is not the thickest. The real thick ones failed our development testing (fractured at the crimped flange). The media used was one of the latest synthetics that allowed very fine filtration, more debris capacity, and much lower restriction than our standard Mopar filter (and just about every other filter out there).
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#27 ·
A SRT Engineer stated on the MO-041 SRT filter (in 2010)

The SRT oil filter for all the past engines and the new 22mm inlet SRT filter for the Gen 4 and beyond engines share the same characteristics.
We worked with many of the filter suppliers to get the best features. Some fell out for various performance reasons but we ended up developing the current SRT filters with one of the mainstream manufacturers (it is different than their commercial offerings - or at least was when we developed it). The high flow oil pumps in our large engines (Viper is the biggest) can overpower the internal relief valve. When this valve opens it allows some of the high pressure dirty oil to bypass the filter element in order to keep the filter from being damaged. The SRT filters do indeed have a higher differential bypass valve to make sure all the oil delivered to your powerplant is clean. The housing is slightly thicker than many of the brands out there to handle the pressure but is not the thickest. The real thick ones failed our development testing (fractured at the crimped flange). The media used was one of the latest synthetics that allowed very fine filtration, more debris capacity, and much lower restriction than our standard Mopar filter (and just about every other filter out there). The final result was clean oil to your Snake, all the time, with more pressure to the internals where it is needed. I would fully recommend using this filter in your beast, I do in mine.
A Guy
 
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#33 ·
As a certified Chrysler tech, the 899 will do you just as well, if not a little better than the 339. However, the 899 is way more of a pain to replace.

I know im necro posting, but i wanted to have my opinion here too.

As a certified Chrysler tech, the 899 will do you just as well, if not a little better than the 339. However, the 899 is way more of a pain to replace.

I know im necro posting, but i wanted to have my opinion here too.
Basically what im saying, the biggest issue with the 899 is that it doesnt fit every vehicle. It should fit the challenger fine tho
 
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