[ChallyTatum]

Then take down that post. The present SRT filter is produced specifically for one engine....the Viper motor.

It just happens to also fit '09+ 5.7 and 392 engines.

Will do, but you could have just said that is not the SRT filter we should be using. Instead you say, the viper filter is the SRT filter and when I try to make the distinction you get irritated that you did not catch the difference.

Wait, my apologies john...looks like the new filter is also viper specific but just fits other engines like you state.

 

[19johned53]

I'm not irritated about anything. This is the first SRT filter thread in the 9 years that I've been a member, that anyone has been confused about the fact that pre Challenger engines use a different filter.

'09+ 5.7 and 392's have always used the same filter, and the SRT filter, which is the Viper filter, is an upgrade and fits.

I see your edit, and no problem. We have it easy compared to Charger forums, which have the 6.1, two 5.7's and the 392.

All is cool.

 

[ChallyTatum]

I'm not irritated about anything. This is the first SRT filter thread in the 9 years that I've been a member, that anyone has been confused about the fact that pre Challenger engines use a different filter.

'09+ 5.7 and 392's have always used the same filter, and the SRT filter, which is the Viper filter, is an upgrade and fits.

I see your edit, and no problem. We have it easy compared to Charger forums, which have the 6.1, two 5.7's and the 392.

All is cool.

I was not confused but putting that teardown of the old viper filter would have definitely mucked things up...good call on telling me to remove it. What I was confused about was the new filter being used across other engines but it was specific to the viper...thanks for schooling me.

 

[19johned53]

All's good. I'm really not sure about the guts of the old vs new filters. Both being for the Viper, they very well may be the same other than the hole/thread size. I really never checked into it.

The SRT is a great upgrade for a filter. Actually the 5.7 folks get the best benefit out of it by having longer oil change intervals.

I can see no way that the SRT's filter media is anywhere near capacity at 6k miles. But we have to change it at 6 months or 6k miles on the 392. Grrrr.

 

[RoadTrippin']

Here are the 899 and 041 filters cut apart, and some other info...

SRT Live Webchat - April 15th, 2014 5PM Eastern

SRT engineer round table Q&A April 15, 2014

Q. A lot of owners are starting to use the SRT Viper oil filter on their 5.7, 6.1 and 6.4 engines (SRT filter # 05038041AA). Is there any advantage (or disadvantage) in using this filter vs. the standard Mopar filter?

A. The SRT Viper filter flows better than the stock Purolator filter and requires a higher differential pressure to bypass the filter at cold starts and high demand (Meaning the SRT Viper filter bypass stays closed more often and filters more oil). Both filters will work on the 5.7/6.1/6.4.
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2022 Dodge SRT® | Explore Charger, Challenger & Durango

When an SRT owner takes their vehicle to a driving event with the specific intent of exploring the far reaches of the performance envelope, they can rest assured that the 6.4-liter HEMI engine will sustain proper oil-pressures in extreme cornering conditions. For track-day use, SRT engineers suggest using the SRT oil filter (part number 05038041AA). Originally designed for Viper applications, it works great with all Chrysler V8 engines. The SRT filter features a higher differential pressure bypass valve and reduced pressure loss across the filter element
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"From the SRT Engineers:
The SRT oil filter for all the past engines and the new 22mm inlet SRT filter for the Gen 4 and beyond engines share the same characteristics. We worked with many of the filter suppliers to get the best features. Some fell out for various performance reasons but we ended up developing the current SRT filters with one of the mainstream manufacturers (it is different than their commercial offerings - or at least was when we developed it). The high flow oil pumps in our large engines (Viper is the biggest) can overpower the internal relief valve. When this valve opens it allows some of the high pressure dirty oil to bypass the filter element in order to keep the filter from being damaged. The SRT filters do indeed have a higher differential bypass valve to make sure all the oil delivered to your powerplant is clean. The housing is slightly thicker than many of the brands out there to handle the pressure but is not the thickest. The real thick ones failed our development testing (fractured at the crimped flange). The media used was one of the latest synthetics that allowed very fine filtration, more debris capacity, and much lower restriction than our standard Mopar filter (and just about every other filter out there).

 

[Tshane72]

Very interesting pics...just more proof of how much better the SRT filter is....just got my oil changed yesterday at the dealership on my 2013 R/T.....had them install the SRT filter I had sitting in the passenger seat. All is well!

 

[A Guy]

A SRT Engineer stated on the MO-041 SRT filter (in 2010)

The SRT oil filter for all the past engines and the new 22mm inlet SRT filter for the Gen 4 and beyond engines share the same characteristics.
We worked with many of the filter suppliers to get the best features. Some fell out for various performance reasons but we ended up developing the current SRT filters with one of the mainstream manufacturers (it is different than their commercial offerings - or at least was when we developed it). The high flow oil pumps in our large engines (Viper is the biggest) can overpower the internal relief valve. When this valve opens it allows some of the high pressure dirty oil to bypass the filter element in order to keep the filter from being damaged. The SRT filters do indeed have a higher differential bypass valve to make sure all the oil delivered to your powerplant is clean. The housing is slightly thicker than many of the brands out there to handle the pressure but is not the thickest. The real thick ones failed our development testing (fractured at the crimped flange). The media used was one of the latest synthetics that allowed very fine filtration, more debris capacity, and much lower restriction than our standard Mopar filter (and just about every other filter out there). The final result was clean oil to your Snake, all the time, with more pressure to the internals where it is needed. I would fully recommend using this filter in your beast, I do in mine.

A Guy

 

[ChallyTatum]

 

[TorRed Jim]

Very interesting pics...just more proof of how much better the SRT filter is....just got my oil changed yesterday at the dealership on my 2013 R/T.....had them install the SRT filter I had sitting in the passenger seat. All is well!

Better check your receipt to make sure the dealership didn't charge you for one of their filters.... :surprise:

 

[Tshane72]

I always check the receipt...I also walked back to the bay they had my car in and I watched them install my SRT filter

 

[TorRed Jim]

I always check the receipt...I also walked back to the bay they had my car in and I watched them install my SRT filter

Cool. :smile:

 

[ChallyTatum]

FYI - Just cracked open the Wix XP (57899XP) filter I have been running and it appears to be well constructed...high temp silicon anti drain valve, uses an actual spring and the bypass appears to be spring loaded as well.

 

[Zeallust]

As a certified Chrysler tech, the 899 will do you just as well, if not a little better than the 339. However, the 899 is way more of a pain to replace.

I know im necro posting, but i wanted to have my opinion here too.

As a certified Chrysler tech, the 899 will do you just as well, if not a little better than the 339. However, the 899 is way more of a pain to replace.

I know im necro posting, but i wanted to have my opinion here too.

Basically what im saying, the biggest issue with the 899 is that it doesnt fit every vehicle. It should fit the challenger fine tho

 

[RWL11]

Hey, who's this guy in the video!? @stevewhite

 

[A Guy]

Luke used to be a hand model

A Guy

 

[stevewhite]

would always use the SRT filter, even my Ram 2500 with a 6.4 gets one

ps my new Ram