[polara71]

EDIT: That is all ignoring the 1320 (again, can't believe I actually typed "Ignore" and "1320") But that is a whole other level of specialtynessosity to me. Pure badassery in motion, only thing I would have considered other than my SHAKER, but they were unobtainable to me, and really I wouldn't fully use it, just for the coolness of it...

I felt the same way. I really wanted the 1320 but I couldn't live without the Shaker. That was the top priority option for my 19.

 

[Hal H]

It still get a laugh out of the folks that plastered SRT badges (any many of them at that) on their Scat Packs
(rear spoiler, fenders, dash, inside door panels)

- seriously, did they think everyone thought otherwise they had a R/T 5.7??

 

[Loopy]

It still get a laugh out of the folks that plastered SRT badges (any many of them at that) on their Scat Packs
(rear spoiler, fenders, dash, inside door panels)

- seriously, did they think everyone thought otherwise they had a R/T 5.7??

Unless you're specifically a Mopar guy, nobody gives a crap about SRT or any of the badges. Everyone who sees my RT always asks "wow nice Hellcat!!".

This whole SRT or not SRT bickering is irrelevant for the general non-Mopar car enthusiast.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Unless you're specifically a Mopar guy, nobody gives a crap about SRT or any of the badges. Everyone who sees my RT always asks "wow nice Hellcat!!".

This whole SRT or not SRT bickering is irrelevant for the general non-Mopar car enthusiast.

That is true for the most part, that is for sure. I like to respond to the "Is that a Hellcat" question with "No, this has the biggest engine in it" If they don't know, it doesn't mean anything anyway. They don't know what a supercharger even is, heck, most don't even know what a V8 is other than they think it is 2 versions better than V6 🤦‍♂️
And as for emblems, my only real complaint is how on the SHAKER up to 2018 the stupid backward facing bee on the one side, they corrected that in 2019. Personally I really want to swap that out to "fix" the OEM problem, but I'm sticking with owning what I own, let the 2019 guys take pride in that.

 

[Charles 236]

I don't really care whether a 392 powered car is an SRT or a Scat Pack. I see them like modern day versions of the GTX and road runner (the road runner badges were always lower case back in the day). The SRT was a loaded performance car and the Scat Pack was a performance car bargain that could be optioned up to suit the buyer's tastes. Just my two cents, both are great cars.

 

[72/340]

The R/T Scat Pack harkens back to the old hot rod days, put a big motor in a standard car. A bone stock Scat Pack and a bone stock SRT are very different options wise. The Scat Pack is an R/T with the SRT engine, transmission, and rear end, plain and simple. The SRT gets better brakes and suspension.

 

[Hal H]

I don't really care whether a 392 powered car is an SRT or a Scat Pack. I see them like modern day versions of the GTX and road runner (the road runner badges were always lower case back in the day). The SRT was a loaded performance car and the Scat Pack was a performance car bargain that could be optioned up to suit the buyer's tastes. Just my two cents, both are great cars.

that's an apt analogy that the GTX started off with features that were standard and the 440-4bbl engine as standard

for a number of years, the roadrunner didn't have the 440-bbl and then it was either 440-6bbl or 426 Hemi as options.

In later years, when the '71+ was out, the roadrunner optioned with the 440 became the GTX trim level up through the '74...

 

[PaVaSteeler]

A Scat Pack isn't and never has been an SRT. It has always had a separate Vin designation and isn't classified as an SRT by Dodge.

That's the real deal right there. People can claim it's an SRT all day long but they will never be able to back it up with any official documentation.

On the other hand, anyone can prove it's an R/T in moments.

Generally, you are correct. Technically however there are exceptions. Those of us who were early purchasers of the 2015 Scat Packs received invitations to the SRT Driving Experience because our Scat Packs had VIN numbers previously reserved for SRT vehicles. I was one of the last wave of early Scat purchasers (September 14, 2014) for whom Dodge acknowledged their mistake yet honored the invitation.

So, My 2015 Scat Pack WAS an SRT! (by the VIN argument).

1 - Scat Pack is not a SRT, they are R/T
2 - Ignoring Hellcat (I can't believe I typed that)

EDIT: That is all ignoring the 1320 (again, can't believe I actually typed "Ignore" and "1320") But that is a whole other level of specialtynessosity to me. Pure badassery in motion, only thing I would have considered other than my SHAKER, but they were unobtainable to me, and really I wouldn't fully use it, just for the coolness of it...

Oh, don't go there! Current Scat Pack owners, fresh with butt-hurt at not being able to factually boast of owning an SRT (except for us happy few- see above), absolutely REFUSE to acknowledge that the 1320 is more than "just a Scat Pack"....even though they lose every time to a 1320, stock vs stock, on the drag strip.

 

[FreddyG]

I've always said that the SRT 392 is like the Rodney Dangerfield of Challenger's and got no Respect! It's either Scat Pack or Hellcat and nothing else mattered.

I don't care because I thought that the Scat Pack was the way for the "Frugal" people to get into a 392 without all of the bells and whistles and performance pieces that the SRT offered (the BIG Brembo brakes, the adaptive suspension and stuff like that). Now, with the SRT 392 gone, you can get those as options on the Scat Pack.

I'll tell you in all Honesty that I'm glad that we bought Ruby because I felt like "King for a day" every time that I drove her. They are just Special cars and I liked the fact that the SRT was not so popular because where I see a ton of Scat Packs (Shaker's and Regular ones) and Hellcat's, I rarely saw another SRT and I liked having that exclusivity (being different especially with the cosmetic mods that were done to her).

I'm not knocking Scat Packs because they are Great cars, but the SRT will always hold a place in my heart as just being Special!

 

[A Guy]

SXT...we don't need no stinkin' badges!

A Guy

 

[Brownsreds]

Generally, you are correct. Technically however there are exceptions. Those of us who were early purchasers of the 2015 Scat Packs received invitations to the SRT Driving Experience because our Scat Packs had VIN numbers previously reserved for SRT vehicles. I was one of the last wave of early Scat purchasers (September 14, 2014) for whom Dodge acknowledged their mistake yet honored the invitation.

So, My 2015 Scat Pack WAS an SRT! (by the VIN argument).



Oh, don't go there! Current Scat Pack owners, fresh with butt-hurt at not being able to factually boast of owning an SRT (except for us happy few- see above), absolutely REFUSE to acknowledge that the 1320 is more than "just a Scat Pack"....even though they lose every time to a 1320, stock vs stock, on the drag strip.

Christ! Now you want to start a 1320 Scat vs Scat Pack argument? One argument at a time man!

 

[GoManGo392TA]

Christ! Now you want to start a 1320 Scat vs Scat Pack argument? One argument at a time man!

 

[Loopy]

SXT...we don't need no stinkin' badges!

A Guy

Clearly i don't even need to upbadge my RT when everyone automatically assumes i drive a Hellcat. I just smile and let them enjoy the beautiful Challenger.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Generally, you are correct. Technically however there are exceptions. Those of us who were early purchasers of the 2015 Scat Packs received invitations to the SRT Driving Experience because our Scat Packs had VIN numbers previously reserved for SRT vehicles. I was one of the last wave of early Scat purchasers (September 14, 2014) for whom Dodge acknowledged their mistake yet honored the invitation.

So, My 2015 Scat Pack WAS an SRT! (by the VIN argument).



Oh, don't go there! Current Scat Pack owners, fresh with butt-hurt at not being able to factually boast of owning an SRT (except for us happy few- see above), absolutely REFUSE to acknowledge that the 1320 is more than "just a Scat Pack"....even though they lose every time to a 1320, stock vs stock, on the drag strip.

LOL, that is the best. I need to make up a nice graphic, like when I bought my car. All of the different performance related features, all of the different models, all the different packages. The 1320 is MORE and LESS at the same time, doesn't it have less brakes so the drag pack wheels can fit? And the best part of all of this debating, nobody is talking about actual power, which is what really we should all be bragging about, sheer raw power. (and that Scat Packs have more power (available) than SRT 6.1s & 392s I.E. Y.J., pre 2015 (couldn't resist adding that in).

 

[249983]

Simply put, the SRT was a Hellcat but without the engine/transmission. The 1320 is a Demon but without the engine/transmission. The Scat pack is a baseline 392 package.

Folks keep getting confused between SRT the trim level, and SRT the name of the performance division at Dodge. Just because it says "Powered By SRT" on the valve covers, DOESN'T make it an SRT.

 

[Hellraisin]

I also find the endless arguments hilarious, as do a number of people I've met inside SRT. Without going into enough detail to break NDAs, I'm considered an expert in my field and I have provided specialized technical training to many automotive and industrial facilities over the years, including the SRT facilities near FCA HQ (about 20 minutes from where I live). I've spent plenty of lunch breaks shooting the breeze with the staff, and this issue of whether or not a Scat Pack should be considered an SRT is a casual debate inside SRT as well.

There are plenty of insiders who don't consider SPs to be SRT vehicles for the same reasons as outsiders. There is more "SRT Technology" in a well-optioned Scat Pack than there ever was in any SRT8, and the SPWB suspension now gives SPs a level of suspension performance not available on any SRT-labeled vehicle. How can the SRT brand be synonymous with top performance, if the top-handling suspension in the platform isn't an SRT vehicle? Keeping the SPs off the SRT roster also keeps insurance rates down and makes the cars more accessible, by reducing the total cost of ownership without lowering the price.

This is why I find it so funny when keyboard warriors are declaring what is and is not an SRT vehicle, like they have some secret knowledge or authority. At the end of the day, you people are picking fights over decisions made by the marketing department. The SRT tech in SPs doesn't make your HCs or SRT8s any less special, and neither does anyone putting a SRT decal on one if they want to. You should be more concerned that my SPWB will out-handle a SUPER SPECIAL OFFICIAL SRT HCWB OMG any day of the week, even if you can kill me straight-line.

 

[Charlie14]

I am surprised that people make this into such a big deal. Like someone else said... just enjoy your car! If it jiggles your balls when you punch the accelerator and puts an evil grin on your face, then your money was well spent!

 

[STINGRAY]

I felt the same way. I really wanted the 1320 but I couldn't live without the Shaker. That was the top priority option for my 19.

For me I couldn't use the 1320 because I wouldn't be using it for that kind of performance in the street. Lighting up the tires like that with launch control and also having to replace the tires. Too much stress on the vehicle and attract too much attention as a daily driver. I enjoy the acceleration 0-60 performance but I wouldn't want that kind of attention obtaining it by burning up the tires..

 

[polara71]

For me I couldn't use the 1320 because I wouldn't be using it for that kind of performance in the street. Lighting up the tires like that with launch control and also having to replace the tires. Too much stress on the vehicle and attract too much attention as a daily driver. I enjoy the acceleration 0-60 performance but I wouldn't want that kind of attention obtaining it by burning up the tires..

I would have switched out the tires on the first day. It is such a cool packaged machine. I would likely never take it to the strip as that's not my thing.
Our first 392 test drive was in a 1320, wifey was impressed. It is certainly different that the Scat.

 

[STINGRAY]

I would have switched out the tires on the first day. It is such a cool packaged machine. I would likely never take it to the strip as that's not my thing.
Our first 392 test drive was in a 1320, wifey was impressed. It is certainly different that the Scat.

It is a demon like package for the quarter mile but I just wouldn't do that out in the open on a public street. Don't want to attract attention of law enforcement or other elements. It's fine for the track and who else but especially me love that 0-60 performance. 😁