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Acronyms Used On Challengertalk

This is a compilation of commonly used acronyms here at Challengertalk contributed by the members. If you are new to the forum, or just wonder what the heck MDS is, or SPAG, you will hopefully find it here. This isn't meant to be a list of common acronyms on the internet, but rather acronyms...

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tHanks ..MDS multi-displacement system. Intake Air Temp.

 

[oneheadlite]

...curious as to why some of you bought Scat Pack cars with the dual scoops or the one big scoop
instead of the Shaker hood???

 

[STINGRAY]

...curious as to why some of you bought Scat Pack cars with the dual scoops or the one big scoop
instead of the Shaker hood???

I like the idea of heat extractors. Besides there is the center intake for air. The Shaker looks great but more for cosmetic and nostalgic looks and extra cost option.

 

[cruiserdan]

...curious as to why some of you bought Scat Pack cars with the dual scoops or the one big scoop
instead of the Shaker hood???

One reason may be that the Shaker package adds $2,595.00 to the cost of the car.

 

[Rob446]

What does IAT stand for?
So then it does make some difference that you can feel?
Worth the cost?

IAT = inlet air temperature. Nothing you can feel, just barley able to measure a difference in inlet air temperature but, every little bit helps

 

[Pioneer4x4]

There is a measurable performance increase. Also in cornering and braking!
You can measure how much the part weighs, measure how much the car weighs, and the difference can be measured. IF that was a Ferrari option, probably cost you $100 to remove that much weight.
Other than that, well, it looks cooler. That's it. You could add in all kinds of extra vents/ducts for no gain, maybe at 100mph, and IF you close up the entire system like the bottom of the airbox, the rain holes in the scoop base... Then you probably are just adding drag.

 

[RWL11]

Got pics?

Pics of what, my car?

Or the intake?

 

[STINGRAY]

Pics of what, my car?

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Or the intake?

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iNTake going into engine compartment.

There is a measurable performance increase. Also in cornering and braking!
You can measure how much the part weighs, measure how much the car weighs, and the difference can be measured. IF that was a Ferrari option, probably cost you $100 to remove that much weight.
Other than that, well, it looks cooler. That's it. You could add in all kinds of extra vents/ducts for no gain, maybe at 100mph, and IF you close up the entire system like the bottom of the airbox, the rain holes in the scoop base... Then you probably are just adding drag.

😁

The Original Scat Pack Challengers had the SRT Style Hoods (Center Bezel, No Heat Extractors).
The 2019+ Scat Pack Challengers now have the SRT Hoods (Center Bezel, Heat Extractors).

I did much better than just the Hellcat Tube alone:
I installed the Hellcat Tube and the Open Top MOPAR CAI that allowed air to be pulled from the Drivers Side Hood Heat Extractor, the Hellcat Tube, and the bottom intake of the Intake Box.
You could hear all the intake noises outside the car, and increased cabin intake noise.
Under full operating conditions, my IAT was 3 degrees above ambient.

Now I have since installed the T/A Intake System. Hood Bezel and Underhood Duct connects to top of air box.
Now that the Drivers Side Hood Extractor is closed off you can't hear the intake noises outside the car.
There is still a huge increase cabin intake noise.
Now the Intake Filter is protected from the exterior elements.
Under full operating conditions, my IAT is 3 degrees above ambient.

I don't have any dyno numbers to back up my claim.... but there is a difference in seat of the pants power.
I don't pay attention to MPG.

The 2019+ Scat Pack Challengers

 

[RWL11]

 

[STINGRAY]

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So yours has a sealed airbox. Why do some have an open element cone filter where yours is at? Or is the open filter not a factory install?

 

[cruiserdan]

Open top is a Shaker or the accessory Mopar cold air kit.

 

[STINGRAY]

Open top is a Shaker or the accessory Mopar cold air kit.

You could have that front driver side headlight air intake with the shaker set up.

 

[cruiserdan]

You could have that front driver side headlight air intake with the shaker set up.

Yup. I have one on mine. The airbox already has the hole. All you have to do is drill the holes for the push-pins.

 

[STINGRAY]

Yup. I have one on mine. The airbox already has the hole. All you have to do is drill the holse for the push-pins.

So when you added that modification to the factory set up could you tell or feel any differences at all?

 

[Hal H]

Sorry for the confusion. But yes I know the "shaker" option on flat hood or the other hood with center intake with 2 air extractors. I am sure this modification can be done with either hood. Perhaps the differences are one air filter from factory is in a sealed box and the other air filter is not in a sealed box just out open in the driver side part of engine?
Got any pics of your set up?

this is the Mopar accessory Air Catcher duct for the Mopar CAI / Shaker airbox. They already have a 3" x 3" hole in the front of the lower airbox where the duct will be located. The 2nd picture is with the close-out header panels installed

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[STINGRAY]

this is the Mopar accessory Air Catcher duct for the Mopar CAI / Shaker airbox. They already have a 3" x 3" hole in the front of the lower airbox where the duct will be located. The 2nd picture is with the close-out header panels installed

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Am I interpreting this correctly? The "shaker" option has that open element filter or is there a top cover for this?
I see some like this and others that are in a fully closed box.
In any case then you have air coming from the shaker for IAT and from the front CAI / Shaker airbox from driver side light for direct cool air to filter. So it's worth the $$$ and you can feel the results???
Do you get more dirt/debris/insects from the extra air intakes resulting in having to clean air filter more often?

 

[cruiserdan]

The Shaker box is open-topped. The filter is exposed as in Hal's photo.

So when you added that modification to the factory set up could you tell or feel any differences at all?

No, but it looks cool.

I did it because I would really like to cap the box and I want all the air coming in "cold". The open top draws in hot engine compartment air when the vehicle is stationary. I made a temporary cap using CAD (Cardboard Aided Design) and it made a noticeable difference in IAT.
The Shaker box is different in that the air outlet to the throttle body is in the side of the box. It comes out of the cap for the enclosed boxes, so you can't simply slap one on the Shaker box.

 

[STINGRAY]

No, but it looks cool.

I did it because I would really like to cap the box and I want all the air coming in "cold". The open top draws in hot engine compartment air when the vehicle is stationary. I made a temporary cap using CAD (Cardboard Aided Design) and it made a noticeable difference in IAT.
The Shaker box is different in that the air outlet to the throttle body is in the side of the box. It comes out of the cap for the enclosed boxes, so you can't simply slap one on the Shaker box.

Yes the shaker does have the looks. That's what I was wondering because I see an open air box which isn't good as you get the hot air from engine. So I would think that from the factory all Challengers come with the closed air box whether it be a "shaker" in the hood or the center air intake in middle of hood with the 2 air extractors on the side. People that leave the top off airbox for cosmetic reasons like the looks of the shaker?
I am wondering will this modification void the factory warranty and also not pass California Smog test on the visual inspection and sniff test?

this is the Mopar accessory Air Catcher duct for the Mopar CAI / Shaker airbox. They already have a 3" x 3" hole in the front of the lower airbox where the duct will be located. The 2nd picture is with the close-out header panels installed

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So this airbox does not come with a top. The sealing (rubber gasket I see) is for the hood to seal it shut?

 

[cruiserdan]

To confirm, The Shaker air box (which is also the same airbox for the Mopar accessory "cold air intake" kit) is opened-top. In other words, no lid. It does have a gasket around the top lip that one would assume seals the box against the underside of the hood. I can confirm that, at least in my case, that gasket does not contact the hood in any manner or at any point.

 

[Mickey LaBelle]

...curious as to why some of you bought Scat Pack cars with the dual scoops or the one big scoop
instead of the Shaker hood???

To each his own. I am not a fan at all of the shaker. I especially don’t like the anniversary color matched shakers.